Covering Their Tracks
Muhammad was very clever in covering his tracks, for at least the ignorant . He knew that there would come a time when people would begin to question his book (Quran) Lest take a look at a few suras shall we?
Al-Baqarah 106
"None of our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten but we substitute something better or similar... "
This is trying to say GOd can contradict himself by saying one thing and changing view on it later. This covers his tracks not only for some of the bogus claims the Quran makes but also for the contradictions it has with the bible . It and the Bible seem to clash heads at times. The Quran denies certain things about Jesus and what Christian do in worshiping him .I will point these contradictions out in future blogs of course.
Al-i-Imran 78
"There is among them a section who distort the book with their tongues as they read so that you think it is part of the book .But it is no part of the Book .And they say "that is from Allah " but it is not from Allah . It is they who tell a lie against Allah ,and they know it!"
He would have said this about us today if he could . He covers his tracks often in the Quran . He stated the above verse to try and stop the truth from getting out about the book(Quran ) We must remember that Muhammad (when starting this religion ) took advantage of pagan Arabs . He was a respected leader among the people before writing the Quran . He was able to now manipulate the people by writing this book claiming Allah(God in Arabic) wrote it .Soon I will have another installment of the Quran series . GOd Bless ,and pray for a Muslim .
Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Sunday, June 26, 2011
Quran Series
Quran Violence
Many members of Islam will claim that their religion is a religion of peace . The problem is , the terrorists Muslims are all claiming that the Quran says to fight in the name o0f Allah. In the following suras (or verse) I will show you what I am talking about . Mind you as I have shown you previously that this book could not have been inspired by God .
Al-An fal 60 "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power ,including steeds of war ,to strike terror into (the hearts ) of the enemies ,and others ,besides whom ye may not know .Whatever to shall speed in the cause of Allah shall not be treated unjustly ."
Al-Anfal 74 "Those who believe and emigrate and fight for the faith ,in the cause of Allah, as well as those who give them asylum and aid -these are all in very truth the believers :for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous ."
Al-Anfal 75 "And those who accept faith subsequently ,and emigrate ,and fight for the faith in your company -they are of you but kindred by blood have prior rights against each other in the books of Allah .Verily Allah is well aquainted with all things"
At-Tauba 5"When the forbidden months are past then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them ...but if they repent and pay Zakat then open the way for them . "
At-Tauba 12-14 and 29 all promote fighting as well.
An-Nisaa 74 "Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the here and after .To him who fights in the cause of Allah whether he is slain or gets victory -son shall we give him a reward of great value "
An-Nisaa 75 "..and why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah of those being weak ,are ill-treated and oppressed.?"
An -Nisaa 76 "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who reject faith in the cause of evil. So fight ye against the friends of Satan."
An-Nisaa 84" Fight in Allah's cause thout art held responsibility only for thyself -and rouse the unbelievers :for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment ."
Al-Baqarah 190-191 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you .........slay them wherever you catch them ."
AL-Baqarah 216"Fighting is prescribed to you and ye may not like it ,but it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you . "
I just wanted to give you all a taste of what the Muslim extremists follow . They read the verses given above and they take them to heart.So is it the muslim extremist misinterpreting it or is it the book itself that is in error ? A little bit of both? The fact is that people are dying every day for these suras and it is not right . WE are at war since 9/11 and this book is partial to blame for it . I am sorry if you all should disagree but that fact is people are dying because of a book not even inspired by God . Now some may say "wait a minute your catholic , your catechism says that Muslims are included in salvation ." Notice I am discrediting a book not the Muslims faith completely . Hope you all enjoyed thank you .
Many members of Islam will claim that their religion is a religion of peace . The problem is , the terrorists Muslims are all claiming that the Quran says to fight in the name o0f Allah. In the following suras (or verse) I will show you what I am talking about . Mind you as I have shown you previously that this book could not have been inspired by God .
Al-An fal 60 "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power ,including steeds of war ,to strike terror into (the hearts ) of the enemies ,and others ,besides whom ye may not know .Whatever to shall speed in the cause of Allah shall not be treated unjustly ."
Al-Anfal 74 "Those who believe and emigrate and fight for the faith ,in the cause of Allah, as well as those who give them asylum and aid -these are all in very truth the believers :for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous ."
Al-Anfal 75 "And those who accept faith subsequently ,and emigrate ,and fight for the faith in your company -they are of you but kindred by blood have prior rights against each other in the books of Allah .Verily Allah is well aquainted with all things"
At-Tauba 5"When the forbidden months are past then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them ...but if they repent and pay Zakat then open the way for them . "
At-Tauba 12-14 and 29 all promote fighting as well.
An-Nisaa 74 "Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the here and after .To him who fights in the cause of Allah whether he is slain or gets victory -son shall we give him a reward of great value "
An-Nisaa 75 "..and why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah of those being weak ,are ill-treated and oppressed.?"
An -Nisaa 76 "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who reject faith in the cause of evil. So fight ye against the friends of Satan."
An-Nisaa 84" Fight in Allah's cause thout art held responsibility only for thyself -and rouse the unbelievers :for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment ."
Al-Baqarah 190-191 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you .........slay them wherever you catch them ."
AL-Baqarah 216"Fighting is prescribed to you and ye may not like it ,but it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you . "
I just wanted to give you all a taste of what the Muslim extremists follow . They read the verses given above and they take them to heart.So is it the muslim extremist misinterpreting it or is it the book itself that is in error ? A little bit of both? The fact is that people are dying every day for these suras and it is not right . WE are at war since 9/11 and this book is partial to blame for it . I am sorry if you all should disagree but that fact is people are dying because of a book not even inspired by God . Now some may say "wait a minute your catholic , your catechism says that Muslims are included in salvation ." Notice I am discrediting a book not the Muslims faith completely . Hope you all enjoyed thank you .
Saturday, June 18, 2011
Quran Series .
The Quran Lacks Original Material !
(some references from the series "Beginning Apologetics/ Answering Muslims )
I will be brief on this subject and go over of the examples as to how the Quran lacks original material today .
Sura 38 :21-25 - this sura is a mutilated account of Nathan confronting David with his sins of murder and adultery from 2Samuel 12 . I suggest you pick up both the Bible and the Quran and read both one after the other and you will see that the writers of the Quran (Muhammad and his followers ) took stories right out of the bible and put their own twists on them .
Sura 12:1-11 - Is a greatly embellished account of the story of Joseph the son of Jacob with its twist of course . In Sura 12:41 , it has Egyptians in the time of Joseph , (around 1500-1200BC) using crucifixion centuries before it was invented by the Persians ,who invented it around 520 BC.For anyone interested Gen chapter 37-50 is the story of Joseph son of Jacob . If it was not in the Bible there would for certain not be a version of it in the Quran . For those of you who dont know the Quran was not written until at least 625 AD .
Sura 5:110-113 -Is not taken from the Bible but the apocrypha . It is from the" Infancy gospel of Thomas ". It is the story of Jesus making a live bird out of clay . It too was written long before the Quran .
Sura 2: 249-252 - Here we have the mix up of Saul and Gideon from Judges 7.
Sura 3:34-47 - This an embellished account of Luke Chapter 1. Mary(Maryam in Quran) ,the mother of jesus , is clearly misidentified as Miriam ,the daughter of imran, the siter of Aaron and Moses .Sura 66:12 repeats this misidentifying in Sura 19:28 it calls Mary the mother of Jesus "Sister of Aaron" directly.
This information above is enough to run from the Quran and never turn back . But many of them are blinded . The truth is the Bible was put together in the late 300s by a series of councils by the Catholic church . One of those councils being the council of Hippo in 393 AD where they determined what books would go into the Bible canon . Notice this is over 200 years before the Quran was even written .
Hope you enjoyed . Stay tuned for another addition of the Quran Series soon .
(some references from the series "Beginning Apologetics/ Answering Muslims )
I will be brief on this subject and go over of the examples as to how the Quran lacks original material today .
Sura 38 :21-25 - this sura is a mutilated account of Nathan confronting David with his sins of murder and adultery from 2Samuel 12 . I suggest you pick up both the Bible and the Quran and read both one after the other and you will see that the writers of the Quran (Muhammad and his followers ) took stories right out of the bible and put their own twists on them .
Sura 12:1-11 - Is a greatly embellished account of the story of Joseph the son of Jacob with its twist of course . In Sura 12:41 , it has Egyptians in the time of Joseph , (around 1500-1200BC) using crucifixion centuries before it was invented by the Persians ,who invented it around 520 BC.For anyone interested Gen chapter 37-50 is the story of Joseph son of Jacob . If it was not in the Bible there would for certain not be a version of it in the Quran . For those of you who dont know the Quran was not written until at least 625 AD .
Sura 5:110-113 -Is not taken from the Bible but the apocrypha . It is from the" Infancy gospel of Thomas ". It is the story of Jesus making a live bird out of clay . It too was written long before the Quran .
Sura 2: 249-252 - Here we have the mix up of Saul and Gideon from Judges 7.
Sura 3:34-47 - This an embellished account of Luke Chapter 1. Mary(Maryam in Quran) ,the mother of jesus , is clearly misidentified as Miriam ,the daughter of imran, the siter of Aaron and Moses .Sura 66:12 repeats this misidentifying in Sura 19:28 it calls Mary the mother of Jesus "Sister of Aaron" directly.
This information above is enough to run from the Quran and never turn back . But many of them are blinded . The truth is the Bible was put together in the late 300s by a series of councils by the Catholic church . One of those councils being the council of Hippo in 393 AD where they determined what books would go into the Bible canon . Notice this is over 200 years before the Quran was even written .
Hope you enjoyed . Stay tuned for another addition of the Quran Series soon .
Friday, March 4, 2011
Atheist Blog
Miracle Case Load :Shroud of Turin
(notes taken from Doxa )
For years it was just known as the cloth that covered Christ . In 1898 a picture showed its negative image to have a portrait of the body and of the face of Christ . It was clear that the cloth was in contact with the body for at least 3 hours -no later then two days . No evidence of initial decomposition ,no issue of fluids from the orfices ,and no decline of rigor mortis ,leading to flattening of the back and blurred or double imprints . Stains of a slightly darker carmine or rust color with the appearance of blood ,are seen in areas consistent with the Biblical account of the scourging of Jesus and crucifixion . Image lacks the sharp out line and vivid color of a painting and is described as "melting away" as the viewers approach the cloth.The evidence of death in a position of suspension of the arms coupled with the Charectaristic wounds and blood flows indicate that the individual was crucified .The feet indicate something of their positioning, on the cross,the left being placed on the instep of the right with a single nail impaling both . The wounds ,blood flows and stains appear to forensic pathologists flawless . So convincing was the realism of these wounds and their association with the biblical accounts that Delage,an agnostic declared them "a bundle imposing probabilities and concluded that the Shroud figure was indeed Christ . Vignon ,his assistent (1937) declared the Shrouds identification to be "as a photograph or set of finger prints ".
Direct examination began by Scientists 1969-1973 . An all -member commission was to give advise on the relic and on specific testing , which might be undertaken . 5 of the members were scientists and studies of samples of the cloth were conducted by them in 1973 .A much more detailed exam was given in 1978-1981 as Shroud of Turin research project .Samples of the pollen collected by Shroud by commission member frei(1978) yielded identification of 49 species of halophyte and desert plants were from the dead sea area. It was concluded that the Shroud must have been exposed to the middle east area.
While carbon 14 dating was done pointing towards mid-evil times as the date of the Shroud.No litmus test was given and they took the same test 3 times so as atheists claim its error free this proves its not the case . The piece they took was different from the rest and they took it from the top and it was a rewoven piece of material . Dr. Shumaker claimed no pigment dies found ,could not have been painted or drawn.This came from ultra bonit light ,ultra violate flowers photography . Cloths had been described by Raes(1976) as a 3-1 herring bone twill . A common weave in antiquity but generally used in silks of the first centuries AD. rather then linen. The thread was hand spun and hand loomed:after 1200 AD most European thread was spun on the wheel .Minute traces of cotton fibers were discovered ,an indication that the Shroud was woven on a loom also used for woven cotton .
On another note there traces in history leading us to believe that it is quite probable that the knights of Templar allegedly hid the Shroud for 100 years
So in conclusion , there is quite the bit of evidence pointing to this Shroud being the real deal .
(notes taken from Doxa )
For years it was just known as the cloth that covered Christ . In 1898 a picture showed its negative image to have a portrait of the body and of the face of Christ . It was clear that the cloth was in contact with the body for at least 3 hours -no later then two days . No evidence of initial decomposition ,no issue of fluids from the orfices ,and no decline of rigor mortis ,leading to flattening of the back and blurred or double imprints . Stains of a slightly darker carmine or rust color with the appearance of blood ,are seen in areas consistent with the Biblical account of the scourging of Jesus and crucifixion . Image lacks the sharp out line and vivid color of a painting and is described as "melting away" as the viewers approach the cloth.The evidence of death in a position of suspension of the arms coupled with the Charectaristic wounds and blood flows indicate that the individual was crucified .The feet indicate something of their positioning, on the cross,the left being placed on the instep of the right with a single nail impaling both . The wounds ,blood flows and stains appear to forensic pathologists flawless . So convincing was the realism of these wounds and their association with the biblical accounts that Delage,an agnostic declared them "a bundle imposing probabilities and concluded that the Shroud figure was indeed Christ . Vignon ,his assistent (1937) declared the Shrouds identification to be "as a photograph or set of finger prints ".
Direct examination began by Scientists 1969-1973 . An all -member commission was to give advise on the relic and on specific testing , which might be undertaken . 5 of the members were scientists and studies of samples of the cloth were conducted by them in 1973 .A much more detailed exam was given in 1978-1981 as Shroud of Turin research project .Samples of the pollen collected by Shroud by commission member frei(1978) yielded identification of 49 species of halophyte and desert plants were from the dead sea area. It was concluded that the Shroud must have been exposed to the middle east area.
While carbon 14 dating was done pointing towards mid-evil times as the date of the Shroud.No litmus test was given and they took the same test 3 times so as atheists claim its error free this proves its not the case . The piece they took was different from the rest and they took it from the top and it was a rewoven piece of material . Dr. Shumaker claimed no pigment dies found ,could not have been painted or drawn.This came from ultra bonit light ,ultra violate flowers photography . Cloths had been described by Raes(1976) as a 3-1 herring bone twill . A common weave in antiquity but generally used in silks of the first centuries AD. rather then linen. The thread was hand spun and hand loomed:after 1200 AD most European thread was spun on the wheel .Minute traces of cotton fibers were discovered ,an indication that the Shroud was woven on a loom also used for woven cotton .
On another note there traces in history leading us to believe that it is quite probable that the knights of Templar allegedly hid the Shroud for 100 years
So in conclusion , there is quite the bit of evidence pointing to this Shroud being the real deal .
Wednesday, March 2, 2011
Atheist Blog
Miracle case load :Our Lady of Guadalupe image .
(notes from www.catholicnewsagency.com)
Dr. Aldofo Orozco at the international Marian conference stated that there is no scientific explanation for "Our Lady of Guadalupe " image . All the cloths similar to the Tilma have been placed in the salty and humid enviroment around the Basilica have lasted no more then ten years.
One painting of the image created in 1789 was on display in a church near the basilica where the Tilma was placed .The image was painted from the best techniques of its time, and put in a glass case .However , 8 years later the images replica was thrown away because the colors were fading and threads were breaking . The image was exposed for 116 years without any protection .The back side of the Tilma cloth is hard while the front is soft.As noted by painters and scientists of 1666 and confirmed in 1751 by Mexican painter Miguel Cabera .1785 a worker accidently spilled a 50% nitric Acid solvent on the right side of cloth .It did not destroy the fabric of cloth not even the image .1921 an explosion broke marble floor and windows 150 meters from explosion ,but neither the Tilma nor the glass case was broken. Scientists discovered that the eyes on the image contained human shapes reflected on the Cornea of each eye.Dr. Rafael Torrija Lavoignet and Dr. Javier Torroella.In 1979 Dr. Jose Aste Tonsmann made more discoveries . There is also evidence of no uinder sketch . Any painter who took himself seriously and takes himself seriously does an under sketch .
In 1789 a Skeptical priest had 11 artists paint 11 replicas of the image .In 7 years the 11 were faded. Some atheist will shout out the name of a painter named Marco who painted the image . As you can see they have no basis for it . The painting on the Tilma does not last long while the image on the Tilma has been lasting for nearly 500 years .Atheists have no explanation for this .I challenge you all to argue these points .
(notes from www.catholicnewsagency.com)
Dr. Aldofo Orozco at the international Marian conference stated that there is no scientific explanation for "Our Lady of Guadalupe " image . All the cloths similar to the Tilma have been placed in the salty and humid enviroment around the Basilica have lasted no more then ten years.
One painting of the image created in 1789 was on display in a church near the basilica where the Tilma was placed .The image was painted from the best techniques of its time, and put in a glass case .However , 8 years later the images replica was thrown away because the colors were fading and threads were breaking . The image was exposed for 116 years without any protection .The back side of the Tilma cloth is hard while the front is soft.As noted by painters and scientists of 1666 and confirmed in 1751 by Mexican painter Miguel Cabera .1785 a worker accidently spilled a 50% nitric Acid solvent on the right side of cloth .It did not destroy the fabric of cloth not even the image .1921 an explosion broke marble floor and windows 150 meters from explosion ,but neither the Tilma nor the glass case was broken. Scientists discovered that the eyes on the image contained human shapes reflected on the Cornea of each eye.Dr. Rafael Torrija Lavoignet and Dr. Javier Torroella.In 1979 Dr. Jose Aste Tonsmann made more discoveries . There is also evidence of no uinder sketch . Any painter who took himself seriously and takes himself seriously does an under sketch .
In 1789 a Skeptical priest had 11 artists paint 11 replicas of the image .In 7 years the 11 were faded. Some atheist will shout out the name of a painter named Marco who painted the image . As you can see they have no basis for it . The painting on the Tilma does not last long while the image on the Tilma has been lasting for nearly 500 years .Atheists have no explanation for this .I challenge you all to argue these points .
Saturday, February 19, 2011
Atheist Blog
Miracles Case load :
Subject :Eucharistic of Lanciano
(Notes from DOXA 21 century miracles)
An 8th century Basilian monk at St. Legontian was in the middle of the double consecration of the Eucharist .When he was involved in this experience he doubted the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist . The Eucharist turned into blood and flesh .
Investigations were conducted since 1574.In 1970 -71 and taken up against partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by professor and scientist Odoardo Linoli professor in Anatomy and Pathological histology and in Chemistry and clinical microscopy . Assisted by professor Ruggero Bertelli of the university of Sienna . They documented the case with a series of microscopic photographs." The preservation of the flesh and of the blood ,which were left in their natural state for 12 centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents ,remains an extraordinary phenomenon ."(said Linoli)
Scientific findings
1. Flesh is real flesh .Blood is real blood .
2. Flesh and blood belong to human species .
3. Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart .
4.In the flesh we see present in section ,the myocardium ,the endocardium ,the vague nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium .
5. The Flesh is "heart" complete in its essential structure .
6. The flesh and blood have the same blood type :AB (blood type identical to that of the Shroud of Turin uncovered by professor Ballone .)
7. In the Blood were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of the fresh normal blood .
8. In the blood there were also minerals found chlorides,phosphorus,magnesium,potassium sodium and calcium .
9. the preservation of the flesh and of the blood which were left in their natural state for 12 centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents, remains an extraordinary phenomenon
Now this is one of several Eucharistic miracles approved by the church . Now, as you may have read in The Lourdes miracle cases /Atheist blog , The church has strict qualifications for cases to be considered miracles. Not only was there evidence in the above scientific findings of this being a miracle but also ,you can actually visit this Eucharist and see for yourself .I have two more miracle cases to go over in my blogs ."The Shroud of Turin" and "Our Lady of Quadulupe" . image . I may have one more atheist blog after those . I hope to start my Islam blog starting next week . It will be about the Koran and the reasons why it could not have been written by God. I hope all of the atheist viewing this will their comments so I can answer them . My goal by showing these blogs on miracles is to make them think a little further then how to take God out of everything .
Subject :Eucharistic of Lanciano
(Notes from DOXA 21 century miracles)
An 8th century Basilian monk at St. Legontian was in the middle of the double consecration of the Eucharist .When he was involved in this experience he doubted the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist . The Eucharist turned into blood and flesh .
Investigations were conducted since 1574.In 1970 -71 and taken up against partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by professor and scientist Odoardo Linoli professor in Anatomy and Pathological histology and in Chemistry and clinical microscopy . Assisted by professor Ruggero Bertelli of the university of Sienna . They documented the case with a series of microscopic photographs." The preservation of the flesh and of the blood ,which were left in their natural state for 12 centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents ,remains an extraordinary phenomenon ."(said Linoli)
Scientific findings
1. Flesh is real flesh .Blood is real blood .
2. Flesh and blood belong to human species .
3. Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart .
4.In the flesh we see present in section ,the myocardium ,the endocardium ,the vague nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium .
5. The Flesh is "heart" complete in its essential structure .
6. The flesh and blood have the same blood type :AB (blood type identical to that of the Shroud of Turin uncovered by professor Ballone .)
7. In the Blood were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of the fresh normal blood .
8. In the blood there were also minerals found chlorides,phosphorus,magnesium,potassium sodium and calcium .
9. the preservation of the flesh and of the blood which were left in their natural state for 12 centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents, remains an extraordinary phenomenon
Now this is one of several Eucharistic miracles approved by the church . Now, as you may have read in The Lourdes miracle cases /Atheist blog , The church has strict qualifications for cases to be considered miracles. Not only was there evidence in the above scientific findings of this being a miracle but also ,you can actually visit this Eucharist and see for yourself .I have two more miracle cases to go over in my blogs ."The Shroud of Turin" and "Our Lady of Quadulupe" . image . I may have one more atheist blog after those . I hope to start my Islam blog starting next week . It will be about the Koran and the reasons why it could not have been written by God. I hope all of the atheist viewing this will their comments so I can answer them . My goal by showing these blogs on miracles is to make them think a little further then how to take God out of everything .
Atheist Blog
Miracles case load
subject : Lourdes
(Information from DOXA Christian thought for the 21 century web site)
There have been 66 official proclamations of miracles at Lourdes ,France. Their of course have been many more claims however the requirements did not make it for the documentation was too hard to get . There have been 6500 individuals reporting cures to the medical Bureau .Of that at least 2500 cases are considered truly remarkable . They however lack some needed requirements to advance to the next stage . (witnesses, lack of agreement on the nature of the ailment )
In the last 24 years there have been about 20 cases reported .Jean-Pierre Bely was the 66th case approved . It was officially recognized by ecclesiastical authorities .
The Process of verification has 3 stages .
1. The cured person must be examined at the Lourdes Medical Bureau .Established in 1883 the Medical Bureau receives testimony of the cured person ,of the doctor and of those who accompanied the person to Lourdes . After the preliminary examination the person is asked to return to Lourdes a year later for another examination . Many cases remain at the first level because of the difficulty of gathering the previous medical reports.A frequently this occurs with people who come from underdeveloped areas .
2. Cases passed to international Bureau
Established in 1946 ,this bureau consists of medical doctors ,psychiatrists and experts in specific diseases . The infirmity must have been serious and considered impossible to cure .No medication or treatment must have been given ,which could possibly have caused the change .The cure must be sudden and complete with no relapse . In a word a cure must be unexpalinable .No human or natural factor could have affected the cure. (The doctors of Lourdes describe it using the words "unexplainable cures " and not "miracles")The case is then referred to the Bishop of the diocese in which the individual resides .
3.Investigation by Diocesan Canonical Committee
Final words belong to the Bishop of the Diocese .
Jean-Pierre Bely's case (# 66 )
In 1984 Jean Pierre Bely was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis ,and by 1987 he was completely paralyzed .He was brought to Lourdes on a stretcher in 1987 as a participant in the October Rosary pilgrimage .On the final morning of the pilgrimage ,Mr. Bely was anointed with the sacrament of the sick . He felt a "sensation of coldness" as followed by "a gentle warmth " that seemed to fill his body ."Later I took my first steps just like a baby who is learning to walk"
Many atheists claim that we don't raise the bar high enough when it comes to miracles . As you can see with 66 miracles approved at Lourdes compared to the 6500 claims that is not the case at Lourdes . Stay tuned for the Eucharistic miracle of Lanciano in my next as we continue with my atheist blog .
subject : Lourdes
(Information from DOXA Christian thought for the 21 century web site)
There have been 66 official proclamations of miracles at Lourdes ,France. Their of course have been many more claims however the requirements did not make it for the documentation was too hard to get . There have been 6500 individuals reporting cures to the medical Bureau .Of that at least 2500 cases are considered truly remarkable . They however lack some needed requirements to advance to the next stage . (witnesses, lack of agreement on the nature of the ailment )
In the last 24 years there have been about 20 cases reported .Jean-Pierre Bely was the 66th case approved . It was officially recognized by ecclesiastical authorities .
The Process of verification has 3 stages .
1. The cured person must be examined at the Lourdes Medical Bureau .Established in 1883 the Medical Bureau receives testimony of the cured person ,of the doctor and of those who accompanied the person to Lourdes . After the preliminary examination the person is asked to return to Lourdes a year later for another examination . Many cases remain at the first level because of the difficulty of gathering the previous medical reports.A frequently this occurs with people who come from underdeveloped areas .
2. Cases passed to international Bureau
Established in 1946 ,this bureau consists of medical doctors ,psychiatrists and experts in specific diseases . The infirmity must have been serious and considered impossible to cure .No medication or treatment must have been given ,which could possibly have caused the change .The cure must be sudden and complete with no relapse . In a word a cure must be unexpalinable .No human or natural factor could have affected the cure. (The doctors of Lourdes describe it using the words "unexplainable cures " and not "miracles")The case is then referred to the Bishop of the diocese in which the individual resides .
3.Investigation by Diocesan Canonical Committee
Final words belong to the Bishop of the Diocese .
Jean-Pierre Bely's case (# 66 )
In 1984 Jean Pierre Bely was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis ,and by 1987 he was completely paralyzed .He was brought to Lourdes on a stretcher in 1987 as a participant in the October Rosary pilgrimage .On the final morning of the pilgrimage ,Mr. Bely was anointed with the sacrament of the sick . He felt a "sensation of coldness" as followed by "a gentle warmth " that seemed to fill his body ."Later I took my first steps just like a baby who is learning to walk"
Many atheists claim that we don't raise the bar high enough when it comes to miracles . As you can see with 66 miracles approved at Lourdes compared to the 6500 claims that is not the case at Lourdes . Stay tuned for the Eucharistic miracle of Lanciano in my next as we continue with my atheist blog .
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